Yesterday I had a query about a piece of software called Rescuetime. From within the dashboard on their site (I was logged into my profile) I clicked the Help link. The next page suggested using the forum but gave a direct contact form too. I thought the forum was the best place to start so I clicked the link.
RescueTime Forum - We tend to be most responsive to support requests posted at our shiny new forum.
A search found no answer but there was a large inviting box telling me I could ask a question. So I wrote what I needed to, re-read and re-edited. The next box invited me to use some tags as the program was saying tags would help me. So I tagged. It invited me to add a smiley. Quite why someone would add an actual :) to a question is beyond me so I skipped that. A quick recap:
- I login at rescuetime to see help
- I click Help
- I click to the indicated forum
- I do a search, write a question, add a tag or two and ignore the smiley.
I now scroll down a bit further and click Publish.
Up pops a floating box telling me I had not registered and that I needed to do that or login. Maybe it wanted my Rescuetime login? so I try that - it does not recognise me. Does it say I must not use the Rescuetime login? No. I complete the signup details but find the actual signup box is just below the visible view, so I scroll down. And the little floaty window disappears. I scroll down as far as I can go and retry the signup by filling in all the details again - and again the window is just that bit too small and again the floaty box goes. I max the browser window and try again - success! It sends me the verification email. I click that then come back to the forum and my new profile page. I look for my question but it has completely disappeared. Gone.
They do not tell me that their forum is completely disconnected to their own, they allow a question to be written, for tags and smileys to be added and then - only then - do they prompt for any sort of login and if it’s a new account they do not say your question will be tossed. And that stupid “OMG this is SOO clever” floaty window is just really bloody annoying.
The query I had? Doesn’t matter - how can you work with software produced by a company that can’t even get that most basic of workflows right? But I know for a fact that they do spend all their time in that most shiny of forums because they haven’t answered the email I sent about this yesterday.
[Post edited 13 March]
I shot the wrong app and probably shouldn’t have shot anything anyway.
I assumed that the forums were run by the same people and that my login would work there. Assumptions are never good and to be fair - to me - at no point was I made to think different. To this end I do think Rescuetime should add a line to the Help part of their site and maybe even a direct link to signup. That at least lets me expect to wait before asking.
And the signup at Getsatisfaction does still need to change. Maybe that hadn’t been tested / experienced before though and it looks fairly new so I should have thought a bit more before getting annoyed. Not my strongest of points though.
Thing is, I want and actually will use Rescuetime. On a daily basis I have another program - Active Timer - that tracks my browser use but I want longer stats as work varies not only by day but by week and only after say 3 months do I think I can accurately work my time out. I use browsers - Camino for one part of the job, Safari for another with Thunderbird / Firefox adding a few minutes here and there. So I don’t need urls (which is good because today alone I’ve visited easily 150+ blogs if not more so while *.wordpress.com would be useful any subdomain tracking is not and from a forum post wildcards would seem to be planned). And the Getsatisfaction forums do look good - I’m registered now anyway so I don’t have to do that again.
So was I right to post what I did? Yes because there were flaws in what should have been smooth
Was I right to take it out on Rescuetime? No. I was wrong there.
And was it good of both guys to comment? Yes, definitely.

6 Comments
Hi there-
Sorry you had a rough experience. We’re using GetSatisfaction for our help system. It’s certainly not perfect, but a lot of people really seem to love it. They’re getting tons of buzz/press. FWIW, I forwarded this post to ‘em– hopefully they can improve things.
RescueTime is a 3 person startup– when forced to make a choice between building the support system of our dreams and improving RescueTime for our users, we have to choose the latter…There just aren’t enough man hours in the day.
Thankfully, if you do a Blog Search for RescueTime, you see tons of happy users (and we’re growing faster every week entirely on word of mouth). So at least we’re getting THAT workflow right. :-)
If there’s a problem you want a hand with, feel free to use one of the alternate means of getting help on that page. (they all go directly to the three founders).
Cheers, -Tony (of RescueTime)
Ah, just read your bio and saw that you are in charge of WordPress customer service. I love WordPress!
Ironically, I had a pretty rough interaction with WordPress.com support (that had a happy ending and an apology from PhotoMatt). I was and am still a paying customer (WordPress.com– for the RescueTime blog). Here’s the post on episode, if you’re interested.
http://www.tonywright.com/2007/interaction-with-wordpress-customer-service-not-so-fun/
For extra irony, my post links to a blog post from the folks at GetSatisfaction (the provider of the help/forum software you’re panning) entitled “Customer Service is the New Marketing”.
Small world!
Hi Tony - thanks for the comment.
If only it had said “You need to login..” like every other forum I have gone to then all the above would not have happened. That is literally all it would have taken. Up until that floaty box I was happy - that box and the subsequent effects ruined it for me.
I would change the getsatisfaction pages and have the really important “Sign in/up” more prominent - but then I would say that now.
Mark,
Thor here, from Get Satisfaction. This is awesome, detailed feedback that we can use to improve that user experience. We’re iterating the user experience regularly, and will address the confusion ASAP.
We’ve also implemented OAuth (and soon OpenID) so we can accept pass-through authentication and hopefully avoid the login issue altogether for companies that wish to. Again, thanks for the very specific suggestions.
(P.S. The emoticon input you mentioned, or “Satisfactometer” as we call it, is actually one of more popular features. It allows people to express their emotional perspective around their topic, adding a bit of helpful nuance to company-customer interactions)
Thor - OpenID would be great. As for the account creation / login, text-link-ads.com use a lightbox type effect which is pretty neat and looks good too. Keeps those little boxes out of sight unless needed.
The forums did look good it was just those steps getting there, nothing else.
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